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Hmm. Okay, a few things to say.

Firstly, I have been taught never to use reference - at least, not heavily. It is CHEATING. However, recently I've become aware that not only do a lot of my favourite artists use reference, but also that there are certain things I will continue to do wrong, over and over again, without ever learning. Unless I do some paintings from life or from photographs. Therefore, I have justified this to myself! (;

So... on with the painting notes. I had an image in my head (lying awake around 3am like you do) of a communist girl. Originally, she was going to have big red perspex goggles of some kind, and red rubber braces - y'know, the fifth element kind that go between your legs? Anyway, so she changed a bit since then, and has almost turned into a strange retro/future propoganda poster girl. Which is kinda cool.

I used a stock photo by :kristyvictoria: as reference for this, as well as a few other things... all the others were for very minor things though (such as the cyrillic, which was added in paintshop pro last of all). The stock photo is here - [link]

This was entirely handpainted in Open Canvas, apart from the cyrillic characters which were added in paintshop pro 9 last of all. It probably took around 8 hours or so, in several sessions.

[EDIT] forgot the toestring. Then got distracted by food. Reuploaded. (: [/EDIT]
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The-Necromancer Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
This is an incredible piece of work. Your skill with the brush much impresses me.
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pixieface Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2007
Thank you very much! :)
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perplitude Featured By Owner May 16, 2007
It`s ok to use reference sometimes, and it gave interesting results here, but too bad much of what works here (the composition, the synthesis, the colors, the anatomy, the plasticity) you didn`t manage to "learn" and have in other works.
Oh, I hate to be difficult, but would be nice that you did more works like this, since you have an interesting imagination I see. Come on, challange yourself more, now that the whole of deviantArt has seen what you CAN do, there`s no more excuses. That is, reference may be useful sometimes at the moment. Or you can use different reference photos and combine them into something completely different. In comics it`s practically obligatory and is called "documentation". But if you do enough real life drawing, documentation and excercises (anatomies, ambientations, anatomies, more anatomies, plasticity, like drawing anything - stack of books, any object, little people in prospective "boxes" from all points of view to learn prospective etc) it`s like slowly absorbing the universe and accumulating "inner reference", and then one day using just the inner one you`ll be able to come up with these same results. Since you do have the inspiration, the eye and the hand.
:D
Anyway have fun in any case,
see ya!
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pixieface Featured By Owner May 16, 2007
Have to admit, this is an old one that I don't like too much. There are many things wrong with it, and imo it sucks a great deal. I've moved on since, and am interested in different things - such as texture and expression, over realism. It is more important to capture feeling and atmosphere over slavish accuracy, and those are the things I enjoy about my more current work.

And the whole of dA has not seen my work at all! I am practically an unknown! Which is kinda how I like it... ;P
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perplitude Featured By Owner May 16, 2007
Obviously I exagerated to make a point. And I`m not sure I made it after all.
The point. Obviously, I do not REALLY care for "accuracy". We do not even percieve the world "accurately" with our senses as we live it, but with emotion, and that`s what interesting to comunicate - points of view, subjective and unique.
But lately I`m doing this art school (of comics) so I`m obsessed with the idea that the technique is like a voyage, like challenging yourself to draw different things from different angles and do absurd exercises... well you start to see things differently and expand your visual "dictionary".
But yeah, no need to burden others with my silly fixations...
Have fun :D
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pixieface Featured By Owner May 16, 2007
Oh, art college! Wonderful! I remember it being an awful lot of fun when I was there a few months back. And they do teach you some great things - things I've continued to reflect back on for years afterwards. :)

I'm kinda jealous. I remember my art college days with joy. :D
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perplitude Featured By Owner May 17, 2007
Well, it`s not so much art college as much as like ... a course?
But it does last 3 years (I`m doing 2nd) and the teachers make us work hard.
And I do learn a lot.
Don`t be jelous because err.. I dunno...
CARPE DIEM! cuz every day is unique :yoda:
as easy as that is to say
:D
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funktrash Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2006  Hobbyist Interface Designer
HA PODNHY ! like the bird. about time lara went commie after that whole paparazzi bizzle with the wee one. now she can shoot people that are disturbing and later say they wanted to subvert the ideals of socialism. you made me proud for my heritage again. even if they suck big time now.
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pixieface Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2006
*grins* Thanks! I'm glad you like it!
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breezee Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2006
damn fantastic yo. missed this one :P
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pixieface Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2006
*snugs* thank'ee, breezeeface.
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kandinsky-prince Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2006
Screw whoever taught you that in the EAR. My god.
This is really lovely and I must favourite it right away. *does so!*
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pixieface Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2006
Art forums taught me that.... *weeps!* Ah well. I am learning to not care at all. XD It is okay. The more I look at this one, the more I hate the complete, washed-out lack of contrast. pfft. I still haven't managed to step on my urge to make things a bit washed out in OC.... I need to work on colourbalance, backgrounds and general composition, like... desperately. ):

Bah to it! and Hugs to you!
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shindevivek Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2006
great work, and there is nothing wrong to work from reference. i personally like to work from photographs. so its cool.
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pixieface Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2006
oh, thank you!

The more I think about it, talk about it, ask about it... the more I find a great number of stunning artists that I know use reference. People much much better than me. It's strange, because even now my gut instinct (ingrained into my by years of art forums I think) tells me IT'S CHEATING! And that I should not have respect for artists who do it. ): This is crap, and untrue, and must change! My gut instinct is stupid. XD
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kristyvictoria Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2006
I'm impressed. I have to say, in this context, you make me feel glad to appear as a communist. ;>
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pixieface Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2006
oh, thanks! I hoped you'd look! :D Is this a photo of you, then? Thank you for the wonderful stock, btw... you have one of the best stock galleries on deviantart (by quite a long chalk), and it was a real pleasure working with your photo! (:
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kristyvictoria Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2006
It is indeed a picture of me. :) I enjoyed it. keep up the great work!
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pixieface Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2006
oh, cool! I'm glad you enjoyed it! You are very cute and fun to paint. Priveledge to use your stock, m'dear. I may do so again in future... (:
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madscott Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2006  Hobbyist General Artist
this is fabulous.

whoever told you not to use a reference should be shot.. that's like handing a 16 year old kid the keys to the truck and saying.. good luck!
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pixieface Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2006
*grins* I dunno... using excessive reference is right up there with straight copying, y'know? And this, well... the top, for example. It's not the same colour or the exact same shape in the photo ref I used, but a lot of the folds are pretty much exactly the same. I figure I learn from painting those folds, so it's okay. XD

And I'm also working on getting my pallette a bit less.... desaturated. That too. (; Glad you like it though! Thanks for the fav. *grins*
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